Another AR210 Wakesurf Question

[YoDaddy292]

Okay, so I’ve read some threads, found two videos on YouTube, seen a couple pics.......but did anyone ever have some ACTUAL success surfing behind an AR210 with the TR-1 motors? I’ve been seeing some great advise on surfing Yamaha’s but most of them are regarding the 1.8 motors (212’s, 240’s, 250’s, etc....). What was the most weight and where did the ballast go to produce a wave good enough to push a surfboard decently?
Thus far I’ve got a wake booster I found on Marketplace, a board (Ronix Marsh Mellow Thrasher), and a rope. I’ve been collecting this stuff as I find it cheap because we always have wanted to play with surfing but didn’t want to break the bank for a failed experiment.
General consensus for ballast seems to be swim step bag (725 lbs), ski locker bag, and maybe some surf side ballast as well. My biggest worry was putting in more weight than the TR-1’s could pull and reach surf speed.
I know the board is important but I don’t want to spend a bunch of money if the experiment fails. If we CAN produce a decent wave (and I’m not expecting real surf boat stuff here) I will likely buy a Slingshot Coaster or the equivalent.
Should/could I run a 650 lb. bag made for the 19’s? 400lbs in the locker? I just don’t want to over do the weight the engines can handle. Lot’s of questions and thoughts here so I’m hoping someone who has tried it with the TR-1’s will chime in as I haven’t seen any real follow up after the questions were posed (which is my initial worry).

Here is what the plan for initial set-up will be:
1) Wakebooster
2) 725lb bag on the swim step
3) 400lb bag in the ski locker
4) Hydrophase Ridesteady

After this I will actually document the successes and failures for future reference in here with pics and videos. Thank you guys for your time .

 

[SCP1]

Okay, so I’ve read some threads, found two videos on YouTube, seen a couple pics.......but did anyone ever have some ACTUAL success surfing behind an AR210 with the TR-1 motors? I’ve been seeing some great advise on surfing Yamaha’s but most of them are regarding the 1.8 motors (212’s, 240’s, 250’s, etc....). What was the most weight and where did the ballast go to produce a wave good enough to push a surfboard decently?
Thus far I’ve got a wake booster I found on Marketplace, a board (Ronix Marsh Mellow Thrasher), and a rope. I’ve been collecting this stuff as I find it cheap because we always have wanted to play with surfing but didn’t want to break the bank for a failed experiment.
General consensus for ballast seems to be swim step bag (725 lbs), ski locker bag, and maybe some surf side ballast as well. My biggest worry was putting in more weight than the TR-1’s could pull and reach surf speed.
I know the board is important but I don’t want to spend a bunch of money if the experiment fails. If we CAN produce a decent wave (and I’m not expecting real surf boat stuff here) I will likely buy a Slingshot Coaster or the equivalent.
Should/could I run a 650 lb. bag made for the 19’s? 400lbs in the locker? I just don’t want to over do the weight the engines can handle. Lot’s of questions and thoughts here so I’m hoping someone who has tried it with the TR-1’s will chime in as I haven’t seen any real follow up after the questions were posed (which is my initial worry).

Here is what the plan for initial set-up will be:
1) Wakebooster
2) 725lb bag on the swim step
3) 400lb bag in the ski locker
4) Hydrophase Ridesteady

After this I will actually document the successes and failures for future reference in here with pics and videos. Thank you guys for your time .

I would buy the bag for the 21’ boat, I know I saw an old post with someone with ballast on a 21’ with the TR-1’s. With our 212 we generally just surf with a rear bag and a WakeBooster. I will tell you holding a steady speed is probably the most important thing so unless you have a great driver, make sure you have Ridesteady or Perfect Pass.

 

[YoDaddy292]

I installed the Ridesteady a couple years back for wakeboarding (incredibly necessary). My only fear in this endeavor is over taxing the TR-1’s. Glad to hear you’re getting a decent wave with the same hull with just the swim step bag.

 

[YoDaddy292]

Alright. First step was getting weather to boat . Here’s a before and after with wakeshaper only. Ballast is in the mail this week. First pick is nothing installed at 10.8 mph and second pick is at 10.8 mph, me hanging off the side, and the wakeshaper. Wave didnt really get much bigger (it’s the only thing my weight didnt really affect) but the wash did get moved out of the pocket (which I’m happy about). I’ll post up more for sure once the ballast arrives and it is nice enough to get back on the lake. Try to give a review on how the boat handles with literally almost triple the weight of me and my wife and what rpm’s are required. Also, of course, whether we get enough push to have a good time.

 

[SCP1]

Alright. First step was getting weather to boat . Here’s a before and after with wakeshaper only. Ballast is in the mail this week. First pick is nothing installed at 10.8 mph and second pick is at 10.8 mph, me hanging off the side, and the wakeshaper. Wave didnt really get much bigger (it’s the only thing my weight didnt really affect) but the wash did get moved out of the pocket (which I’m happy about). I’ll post up more for sure once the ballast arrives and it is nice enough to get back on the lake. Try to give a review on how the boat handles with literally almost triple the weight of me and my wife and what rpm’s are required. Also, of course, whether we get enough push to have a good time. View attachment 234079View attachment 234080

The ballast bag will be a game changer, looking forward to seeing/hearing your results.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

I know very little about wake surfing, looks to me that the wave shape changed quite a bit…

What if you go a bit faster or slower?

 

[YoDaddy292]

I know very little about wake surfing, looks to me that the wave shape changed quite a bit…

What if you go a bit faster or slower?

You and me both......but length and height of the wave mostly. Slower is a shorter, maybe, taller wave and faster is longer but shorter wave. 10.8 seemed to be the biggest wave when testing it all out but I wont really know until we get the ballast and actually try surfing to see where we get the most push. This isn't a real serious thing for us it's just trying to add another dimension to our play as most of our excursions are all day affairs. With my luck we end up liking it too much for keeping the Yamaha LOL. I swear we need three boats for all I want to do.

 

[FSH 210 Sport]

You and me both......but length and height of the wave mostly. Slower is a shorter, maybe, taller wave and faster is longer but shorter wave. 10.8 seemed to be the biggest wave when testing it all out but I wont really know until we get the ballast and actually try surfing to see where we get the most push. This isn't a real serious thing for us it's just trying to add another dimension to our play as most of our excursions are all day affairs. With my luck we end up liking it too much for keeping the Yamaha LOL. I swear we need three boats for all I want to do.

Well one boat might get wet so you need a couple dry ones